NEWS; Beating-Scandal with Tokio Hotel!

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Tom Kaulitz - hit a fan?

NEWS; Beating-Scandal with Tokio Hotel!

Tom Kaulitz (19), guitarist of the band and twin brother of the singer Bill (19), met a female fan at a petrol station in Hamburg. The 21 years old girl says, that the musican gave her a punch in her face in the late wednesday evening, that’s what the police found out at thursday.

The woman, who was there together with 4 friends, noticed Kaulitz in his car and knocked at his window to take a photo of the 19 years old guy.

After the description of the woman, the Tokio-Hotel-star let the window down and threw a cigarette at her, that she took from the ground and put it out on his window. So he stepped out of his car and should’ve hit her.

The woman got a swelling bellow her eye and called the police.

By their arrivial, Kaulitz was already driven away, so they couldn’t ask for his side of the story. The 19 years old guy will get the opportunite to say something to this case, said a policeman.

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Comment by ich bin nicht ich
2009-04-16 07:46:10

YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

GO TOM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Comment by ich bin nicht ich
2009-04-16 10:24:47

I have NOT seen anything about this on VIVA de or RTL tonight so it might nor even be true!!!

Comment by Zia
2009-04-16 10:29:29

I so hope you are right. I hope this is just another filthy rumor and if it is a rumor, what a foul one it is!

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Comment by ich bin nicht ich
2009-04-16 10:43:39

It would be on the news even here if it was true. No Norwegian or Swedish newspaper has had anything about it. And especially the swedish LOVES gossip!

 
Comment by ich bin nicht ich
2009-04-16 11:24:25

I am watching some celeb new on RTL and there is NOTHING about this! I think it’s the same show you can see on youtube who makes Bill say he’s not gay after signing autographs and talk about his teeth. And who talked about they had a examen and so… And NOTHING!!!

 
Comment by ich bin nicht ich
2009-04-16 11:43:06

Normal news now… and.. NOTHING!!!!

 
2009-04-16 13:18:55

Oh god. I dont think its true either… I mean, if it is… I kinda loose some respect for him… cuz you’re not supposed to ever put your hands on a woman… unless you’re doing something else ;) lol jk but idk… I still luv him :P

 
Comment by ich bin nicht ich
2009-04-16 13:41:08

Hahah He can put his hands on me. But gently please…. LOL

 
2009-04-16 14:18:58

Lol, you’re so nasty xD

 
Comment by ich bin nicht ich
2009-04-16 14:30:34

I’ll never stop wanting him. Without the cap! LOL
He will of course allways just be a fatamorgana, but still. He will allways be my cruch Nirvana!Why doesn’t guys look like that in real life?????

 
2009-04-16 14:36:30

Cuz Toms just too hott/good to be true ;)

 
Comment by esme
2009-04-16 15:53:14

ich bin nicht ich ur so totally right, why aren’t they guys like that?

 
Comment by Bills Mine
2009-04-16 17:10:18

I Can’t understand that video.. but did it say anything about Tokio hotel’s magement t replying to this incident.. could someone trasnlate that, did they deny that tom did it?

 
Comment by ich bin nicht ich
2009-04-16 23:52:08

No, the management haven’t mada a statement yet. we are still waiting to hear Toms site.

 
Comment by ich bin nicht ich
2009-04-17 07:16:17

Ok, so…….. According to another fan site there are witnesses and securety tapes:
From “THN.com”

From the Witnesses and Fans (Most likely the real situation)
Tom was at a gas stations when four stalkers noticed him. These stalkers have been seen outside the studio many times and have been following him for a while. The accusing fan went over to the window and asked him multiple times for a picture, but Tom said no. She wouldn’t leave the car alone, so threw a cigarette out the window in an attempt to get her to leave. She picked up the cigarette and stubbed it out on his window. With this, Tom got out of the car and hit her, resulting in very minor injuries. Tom left the scene and she called the police, then she called the press.

So, you can see the obvious differences between the accusing fan’s story, and the story witnesses have been telling. Hamburger Morgenpost has recently posted an article about the situation saying that police are still investigating and that Tom will be asked to go to the police station in the next few days. They also say that the girls keep giving contradictory statements. A security tape is also said to show Tom and a girl (or Bill) in the car and Tom gets out twice to hit two fans, after they were standing around the car.

Expect management to make a statement about what happened soon, because they were supposed to make one this morning but didn’t. We’ll probably hear Tom’s side of the story in the next few days.

I think it’s safe to say this is a missreported event by the media, and that the fans are more at fault than Tom. Tom shouldn’t have hit them, but he wouldn’t have been forced to if they hadn’t provoked them. Stay tuned for more updates as additional news comes in!

 
 
Comment by aiceeHEARTSbill
2009-04-16 11:56:39

but what if it’s true ? ..
OMG !! it has to be a rumor !
coz the name of tom kaulitz
will be in a big trouble perhaps if
it is really true ! .. not only
tom but also in the whole band ! .. :(
I REALLY HOPE THIS NEWS IS NOT TRUE !! :(

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Comment by laiila
2009-04-16 13:45:34

of course he knew if he would do smthin like this it will be on tv the very next day nd that wwnt be good for his name am sure he thought about that so thats another reason why he cnt do this..and am saying again ONLY IF THEY GIRL DID SMTHING REALLY BAD.
am dyin to know toms story

 
Comment by ich bin nicht ich
2009-04-16 14:04:49

But why is it not on telley? And not in the news? If this is the only thing in the media I thing we have waisted our energy on bullshit! LOL!
And I have waisted long houres wathching German telley whilse I don’t understand a shit German. LMAO!

TOOOOOOOM TALK TO US BABE!!!!!

 
Comment by laiila
2009-04-16 14:24:35

lol am going crazy in here seriously ^^

 
Comment by ich bin nicht ich
2009-04-16 14:32:38

Don’t go crazy. It’s not worth it! LOL
It’s better to just turn the computer off then :-)
Come back tomorrow If there is no more news about this by then, it’s probale not even true!

 
Comment by laiila
2009-04-16 14:37:06

hahai cnt am havin the feeling that when i turn it off they will put new news lol dunno x)
however if it was true am SURE he has an excuse so sure

 
Comment by ich bin nicht ich
2009-04-17 01:54:57

Hahahhaha
Now it is tomorrow and still no statemenet from Tom as far as I know….

TOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM!!

 
Comment by laiila
2009-04-17 02:20:29

nop nthin:( nthin on youtube too

 
Comment by ich bin nicht ich
2009-04-17 05:44:05

ojaojaoajoaja Let’s hope it’s over

 
Comment by penpey
2009-08-22 14:25:27

the girl he hit was part of a stalker gang
-that stalked tokio hotel

 
 
 
Comment by sara
2009-04-16 15:48:43

tom isnt stupid he wouldnt do something like that

 
Comment by Mikii
2009-04-16 18:35:18

lol, XD

but i think this is some Bull.
I bet the firl just did it to get news coverage and attention.
I don’t think Tom would ever hit a fan.

then again,
if he DID, WHICH IM NOT SAYING HE DID, she probably deserved it.

EITHER WAY.
WHOOT TOM.
<3333333

 
Comment by ich bin nicht ich
2009-04-17 07:34:16

Tom Kaulitz (19), the guitarist of the famous german band “Tokio Hotel” was involved in a fight with a fan wednesday evening. The fan, a 21-year-old girl with friends saw Tom’s car at a gas station in Hamburg and decided to walk up to him and ask for an autograph, and when the teen said no while he flicked a cigarette at the girls the situation began. Apparently, the girl responded with picking up the lit cigarette and used it on his car which made him snap. He apparently stepped out of his car and first hit one of the main girl’s friend before returning to his car to once again step out at allegedly hit the main girl in the face with his elbow.Elbow? That means he just wanteded to push her away!

 
Comment by ich bin nicht ich
2009-04-17 07:35:22

“Tom Kaulitz (19), the guitarist of the famous german band “Tokio Hotel” was involved in a fight with a fan wednesday evening. The fan, a 21-year-old girl with friends saw Tom’s car at a gas station in Hamburg and decided to walk up to him and ask for an autograph, and when the teen said no while he flicked a cigarette at the girls the situation began. Apparently, the girl responded with picking up the lit cigarette and used it on his car which made him snap. He apparently stepped out of his car and first hit one of the main girl’s friend before returning to his car to once again step out at allegedly hit the main girl in the face with his elbow.

Elbow? That is not hitting. That is PUSHING!!!!!

 
Comment by Tiki
2009-04-18 00:40:15

I know this is a repeat, but the truth is out: Now we know what happend, come on, THESE GIRLS MESSED WITH TOM’S MOM AND MADE THREATS TO HIS FAMILY AND HIM AND I HOPE THE FAMILY CAN FILE SUIT AGAINST THEM FOR HARASSMENT AND GET A ORDER FOR THEM TO STAY AWAY AND FILE AS MANY CHARGES AS THEY CAN AGAINST THESE GIRLS! THE STORY GETS WORSE,

TEAM TOM!!!!!!!!!!!!

http://www.bild.de/BILD/unterhaltung/leute/2009/04/18/tom-kaulitz/vermummte-maedchen-jagen-tokio-hotel.html

Translation of the important parts:

BILD.de found out: the woman belongs to a stalker-gang from france. they’re calling themselves „Les afghanes on tour“ (the afghans on tour). the gang is supposed to consist of 4 girls who have been following the band on their every step for half a year. the young women are usually masked or disguised.

the stalkers allegededly have been camping in front of the flats of the band-members. they’ve been throwing eggs at the cars of the musicians, writing threatening letters and harrassing family-members.

in a letter to Tokio Hotel that BILD has, the girls claim that they are more than normal fans and are theatening the band with a “small nightmare” for next week. furthermore, it reads “emergency, emergency… we are not happy. we are getting impatient, DO YOU UNDERSTAND US???”

even the mother of Bill and Tom has been threatened by the stalker-gang and even attacked. the stalkers have been charged (file 2009 004 57397).

“Tokio Hotel” manager David Jost confirms those happenings.

He says “one of those stalker-girls has been attacking a family member of Bill and Tom on april 8th. we have been bringing a charge against her the following day and we’ll continue doing so now.”

In German:

Seine Fans rätseln, warum er so sehr die Kontrolle über sich verloren hat. Gibt es jetzt eine mögliche Erklärung für sein Verhalten?
„Tokio Hotel“-Gitarrist Tom Kaulitz (19) und sein Ausraster an einer Hamburger Tankstelle. Der Musiker hatte einer jungen Frau (21) ins Gesicht geschlagen, nachdem diese eine Zigarette auf seinem Auto ausgedrückt hatte. Sie erstattete daraufhin Anzeige gegen den Rockstar.
BILD erfuhr jetzt: Die Frau soll zu einer Stalker-Gang aus Frankreich gehören. Sie nennen sich „Les afghanes on tour“ (Die Afghanen auf Tour“). Die Gang soll aus vier Mädchen bestehen, die der Band seit einem halben Jahr auf Schritt und Tritt folgt. Die jungen Frauen sind meist vermummt oder maskiert.
Die Stalkerinnen haben angeblich auch die Wohnungen der Bandmitglieder belagert. Sie bewarfen die Autos der Musiker angeblich mit Eiern, schrieben Drohbriefe und belästigten Familienmitglieder.
In einem Drohbrief an „Tokio Hotel“, der BILD vorliegt, behaupten die Mädchen, dass sie mehr seien als normale Fans, und drohen der Band für die nächste Woche einen „kleinen Albtraum“ an. Weiter heißt es: „Achtung, Achtung… Wir sind unzufrieden. Wir werden ungeduldig, VERSTEHEN SIE UNS???”
Sogar die Mutter von Bill und Tom soll vergangene Woche von der Stalker-Gang bedroht und tätlich angegriffen worden sein. Es wurde Strafanzeige gegen die Stalker gestellt (Aktenzeichen 2009 004 57397).
„Tokio Hotel“-Manager und Produzent David Jost bestätigt gegenüber BILD die Vorfälle.
Er sagt: „Eines dieser vermummten Stalker-Mädchen hat am 8. April ein Familienmitglied von Bill und Tom angegriffen. Wir haben direkt am darauf folgenden Tag Anzeige gegen das Mädchen erstattet und werden jetzt weitere Strafanzeigen erstatten.“

Google translation of the whole article:

His puzzle fans why he is so much control over is lost. Is there now a possible explanation for his behavior?

“Tokio Hotel” guitarist Tom Kaulitz (19) and his Lashing out at a gas station in Hamburg. The musician was a young woman (21) beaten in the face after they light a cigarette on his car had expressed. They reported that charges against the rock.

IMAGE learned today: The woman is a stalker-course from France. They call themselves “Les Afghans on tour” (The Afghans on tour “). The course will consist of four girls, which the band for half a year to step follows. The young women are often disguised or masked.

Stalkers have allegedly also the homes of gang members under siege. You bewarfen the cars of the musicians with eggs allegedly wrote threatening letters and harassed family members.

In a threatening letter to “Tokio Hotel”, the BILD exists, the girls say that they were more than ordinary fans, and threaten the band for the next week a “small nightmare” to. And further: “Attention, attention … We are dissatisfied. We are impatient, WE UNDERSTAND IT? ”

Even the mother of Bill and Tom to be last week of the stalker-Gang threatened and physically attacked them. It was criminal charges against the stalker by (document number 2009 004 57397).

“Tokio hotel” manager and producer David Jost to BILD confirmed the incidents.

He says: “One of the masked stalker girl on 8 April a member of the family of Bill and Tom attacked. We have directly on the following day against the girl and are now repaid more charges refund. “

 
 
Comment by ich bin nicht ich
2009-04-16 07:47:59

Look at the girls hiding!!! Oh, they are sooo coward!
Tom so did the right thing!

Comment by Reden
2009-04-16 07:53:14

uhhhh u better just STFU!!! what if he did the same with you????? that girl just wanted a shitty photo with him! and what she got was a punch in her face!

if this is true, im going to hate tom for my whole life. thats it!

Comment by ich bin nicht ich
2009-04-16 07:56:46

I would never give him a reason!
Knock on his car window…. And they had probable been outside the studio all day!!!!

If you will hate Tom for this, you are not a true fan! Then you are obsessed!!!!

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Comment by Chriss
2009-04-16 09:02:21

Do you hear yourself?

“I would never give him a reason.” Why don’t you say that to the battered wives of America? Since when is there ever a reason to get hit?

It’s barbaric. It’s only for people too thick to solve their problems with words.

 
Comment by teema
2009-04-16 10:34:50

yeah it isnt a good thing he hit her but…if he were a girl would it matter as much and maybe he lost control after he’s been stalked all day long they are under ALOT of pressurre! …i wonder what bill thinks of this?

p.s. i hope this ownt effect their album

 
Comment by ich bin nicht ich
2009-04-16 11:19:42

Chriss: I didn’ mean to give him a reason to hit me. I ment I would never nag him like they most have done.

I do not beleive he would hit her without a reson,. And besides I don’t beleive he hit her. But he is known to tell them off.
And maybe they couldn’t take that.

I don’t think Tom is a violent man. But he has a temper. As we all do.
But it’s never a reson to hit.

 
Comment by penpey
2009-08-22 14:31:10

the girls where a stalker gang
there was a point to him hitting her
they where stalking them and harasing members of family lol i no eveyon knows this anyways but i like clearing up injusice ect.
soz

 
 
Comment by realwild
2009-04-16 09:46:05

you STF UP !! they’re not some random fans….those french girls have been following them around for weeks and stalking them

GO TOM!!!!!

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Comment by ich bin nicht ich
2009-04-16 10:25:59

Oh, is this the famoust french girls???????? Oh, no I have heard about them!!!!!! ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

 
Comment by alissa
2009-04-16 11:36:15

Okay for the last fucking time IT’S NOT STALKING…..
there not in danger and THERE CELEBS THEY SIGNED UP FOR IT WHEN THEY DECIDED TO HAVE THIS AS THERE CAREER.
you don’t know shit about these fans. so shut the fuck up. stop bad mouthing them, when there the ones that give us new pics of them, if we didn’t do that we wouldn’t see them till there album came out, and then you would be complaining that there are no pics of them….Don’t talk if you don’t fucking know shit.

this story probably isn’t true, but if it is true, thats pretty fucked up, and toms going way to far, it doesn’t matter if you have a temper you can’t just start hiting ppl if they piss you. If this is true the only person I feel sorry is the fan.

STOP BEING IMMATURE! you guys make yourself look and sound stupid by saying “GO TOM”. If this is true and it happened to you, you would be so fucking heartbroken, so STFU!

 
Comment by Lena
2009-04-16 11:52:17

ok if it is true im not saying “go Tom” im not taking sides or anything … but stalkers… come on no one really wants those pics… its their privacy maybe they wanted to surprise us for once but how sad is it that they cant even give the fans a sweet surprise… stalker pics dont show anything and idk bout u guys but they get me sooo pissed off.. leaves u shocked and mad and sometimes ur like wtf i cant see anything…

I agree with u i dont think its true … and u no we really havent heard Toms side either… maybe the girl isn’t exactly telling the truth… just like any other rumor we have to wait… :)

 
Comment by Anonymous
2009-04-16 12:03:59

Not stalking if not causing fear - true.

However - if these are the same girls who were verbally abusing him and his family and friends (and phone records may prove that) and have been on his tail constantly -then he can easily argue he was provoked to anger.

Non celebs can complain when someone is following you everywhere and bugging you and your family. But celebrities are expected to grin and bear it.

 
Comment by ich bin nicht ich
2009-04-16 12:27:28

Yeah. It’s like they are not allowed to be human. They should not feel and not react.
But they are only teens growing up in front of our eyes.
I hope Tom is ok and feels fine.

 
2009-04-16 13:24:46

Ya ich bin, you shouldnt be saying “GO TOM!!!!” <- cuz thats fucked up… Im not taking sides either, I mean I luv you guys, and Tom, but thats not right. … Besides… I dont even think it’s true, but Tom simply did NOT do the right thing, if this is true. No man should ever hit a woman, and no woman should ever hit a man… Thats my opinion, others think differently, but I have my reasons, and thought and you ahve yours, so if you wanna hate, go ahead, I really dont care [Not talking just about you ich bin] Im talking to ALL ppl. Thats not right if he ACTUALY did do that… I dont know what to think. Everyone just needs to calm down, and wait for ACTUAL news, to say if it’s true or not, but ppl surely shouldnt be saying “GO TOM!!” Cuz thats just… crazy.

Now everyone chillax, UNTIL we see if its true or not… Its prolly just another nasty rumour, no one knows for sure, but chill the hell out, and take a deep breath k??

Thank you

 
Comment by ich bin nicht ich
2009-04-16 13:46:17

But again: I AM NOT SUPPORTING HITTING!!!!!!
But I am supporting the fact that Tom did react against this stalkers.

He is allowed to be human and I dought that he would be rude unless he had a reson to. I too can get really rude if I have to. But in general we are all nice people right?

And besides: we don’t know if this is true. I am killing myselves here watching VIVA and RTL (don’t understand a shit German LOL) but there is NOTHING about this there

 
2009-04-16 14:00:58

Ok, I get you, it was just wrong of you to say “GO TOM!!!” <- when this shytt is happening.. ya digg??

Im just really mad, and I understand where you are coming from… I just have a different way of looking at things sometimes, and I dont even think its true… Besides, when did this piece of news come on?? Today?? I dont know… and Im in America right now, cuz of my mom -_- … and I cant see AVIVA or RTL even though I watch that show everytime it comes on… I cant see it now though… I dont know what to think, but until this shyz-nazz gets confirmed, then you [not just you ich bin] can point fingers, but unfortionaly, its not up to us, whether he gets charged or not… I think its a romour, and we can say anything and everything we want, but it wont change anything…

We just have to wait til something comes up confirmed…

 
Comment by ich bin nicht ich
2009-04-16 14:09:04

There’s absloutely NOTHING on VIVA and RTL. I have been watching news all night.

So yeah, I beleivi it’s just another of these “things”.
And if this is all that there is about it I don’t think it harms Tom or TH that much. Allthough I wish Tom would give a statement.

And it’s 21.11 (Nine in the evening) here now. And it’s Thursday.

 
Comment by ich bin nicht ich
2009-04-16 14:13:27

Yeah, and the GO TOM thisng was before I read that he had hit her. Didn’t get that part. But I still stand by him for reacting! Not hitting, but reacting.
And until someone prooves to me that he did hit her, I beleivie he didn’t. Pushed her - yeah - maybe. But hitting like in a fight…. In that case why didn’t her TREE (!!!!!) friends help her and beat HIM the hell up????

And how did she know who he was (we all know he has camuflage on by now) onless she knew the car? And only fans knows the car. And there are like 19278961496 of thet Audi in Germany, so she most have known his license plate….

Nahhhhh there is something spooky about her story!

 
2009-04-16 14:28:09

Ok I totaly get you now, but I agree… She could be lying, but from what I hear, thats what Im going with until something comes up.

 
Comment by Anonymous
2009-04-16 14:33:31

Sorry Alissa you’re in the minority here.

Celebrities sign up for being followed and having fans wanting their autographs. But these girls even admitted to harassing him.

That no one signs up for.

 
Comment by alissa
2009-04-16 17:11:44

Ya, I agree, No one should be harassing them but everyone on this site thinks that all the German Fans taking pics of them is stalking them. Thats not true at all some fans keep there distances, Most fans respect there family and friends, Ja, 10% of the fans go a little to far but thats a small percentage.

IDK maybe I’m stupid German and don’t understand what you guys are saying about stalkers, but, What do you consider stalking?
harassing there family and friends and them?
Just taking pictures from far or videos?
Trying to find there tour bus, when your waiting for the show to start?
Running after the tour bus, when it’s driving away?
Going to there hotels and waiting outside to get an autograph?
What’s really Stalking? How far do you guys wanna accuse fans of being stalkers? Have any of you done any of the things on the list? I know almost all of you have…..

 
Comment by ich bin nicht ich
2009-04-17 00:04:30

Stalkers are those who is waiting outside their home and studio etc. Taking pictures and filming.
And nowadays it’s really bad as they upload the films and stuff on youtube showing - not only us who likes TH, but also all those TH haters out ther their licens plate (car registration numbers), homes etc.

A stalker kan actually also be a good thing as a stalker can be someone who “goes on tour with them” They uses their hollydays following their idols, going to everty consert. And no star ever complains about them as they LOVE them :-)

So the bad stalkers are the once no stars EVER like!

But most fans goes to conserts, wait outside hotels, goes to signings etc. Those ppl are COOL! And true fans!!!!

Do you understand this? :-D

 
Comment by alissa
2009-04-17 01:18:46

Ooohhhh…..Okay I get it now. I see… :)

 
Comment by ich bin nicht ich
2009-04-17 01:29:00

;-)
It’s never easy when english is not our language. I have problems as well sometimes. And it is really easy to missunderstand things on the internet. Ther readers may not allways understand what you mean.
Like they thought I was ok with Tom hitting a woman. That is never ok. But it doesn’t mean that I don’t understand where he’s comming from :-)

 
Comment by laiila
2009-04-17 01:50:49

i let my friends watch RTL like the whole night and till now there are no new news:(
alissa r u german? if yes would u plz keep on checkin RTL or whatever to tell us if there are any news:) coz i dnt have it :(..and am dyin to know

 
Comment by ich bin nicht ich
2009-04-17 01:57:27

I have VIVA and RTL. And I did watch 4-5 news, even this celeb news stuff. And NOTHING!!

I have to check tonight as well! And tomorrow I’ll be at home all day working on the website, so I shoul be able to watch it a lot then as well :-)

 
Comment by laiila
2009-04-17 02:13:06

oh great then if there is anythin new plz post it then :)
thnx hun

 
 
Comment by Shardell
2009-04-16 10:09:42

I agree. As much as I love Tokio Hotel, no woman should get hit. I hope that this is fake, and not real. It would suck.

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Comment by Zia
2009-04-16 10:30:05

No ich bin, no.

Comment by ich bin nicht ich
2009-04-16 11:20:17

It’s not them?

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2009-04-16 13:43:03

And they really cant say anything about the fans being up their ass, I personaly wouldnt like that, but they chose the rockstar life, they wanted it, and they’ve got it, but it doesnt give TOM or any rockstar, a reason to punch a fan… I THINK I will still luv maybe only “like” him now <- only if this is true… Cuz I just lost A LOT of respect for him…

Everyday, things seem to get worse for me…

… Always me …

 
Comment by laiila
2009-04-16 13:48:51

u cnt say anything now until u really know the truth girl..wait for it

 
Comment by ich bin nicht ich
2009-04-16 13:49:33

Don’t think anyone warned them about stalkers when they were 14….
And do we want them to stop making music because someone don’t know how to behave????

I want the music :-)

 
2009-04-16 14:03:17

So do I, and I know I cant say much now, because no one really knows the truth… Im just saying, they asked for it, and they’ve got it… But I understand ich bin, that everyone can loose their temper, you just have to wait til its ALL confirmed…

 
Comment by laiila
2009-04-16 14:08:48

yea seriously i just dnt get them !!

 
Comment by ich bin nicht ich
2009-04-16 14:20:58

Noone is allowed to take away their freedom. At leas not the people they should be able to trust: the fans

 
 
 
Comment by TH4ever9
2009-04-16 15:33:29

First of all, idk if this is even true. I don’t agree yet i do agree with you, i don’t think this girl should have got mad and thrw the cigarette at his window, but why did Tom throw it at her? I don’t know, Tom seems to be mad alot for some reason, these days. But i dont believe he punched the girl, it doesnt sound like him, that sort of behavior is way abnoxious and i dont believe Bill would either. Maybe he is tooo stressed out to care. And the girl should probably have understood that and left immediatly, it is her fault too. I know you are handling this in a fan based way, and its probably hard to understand that someone we all love so much would do this, ich bin nich ich, but i dont think he should have done that. What the girl did would be annoying, but not so infuriating to deserve abuse as far as punching in the face goes. I dont think Tom meant to, and i dont think Bill or the rest of the guys in TH agrees it was the right thing to do, i just think he was in too much drama wit the papparazzi and crazy fans stalking them outside the studio. He wasnt thinking rationally, and i dont think he meant it.

Comment by TH4ever9
2009-04-16 15:50:56

Maybe the girl did something worse than just annoy him. she is probably lying and did something to get Tom so pissed he HAD to punch her like anyone else would.
idk.
Gott, this is so freakin messed up…

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Comment by A+B=bffsb
2009-04-16 07:54:33

go tom!!!!!!

 
Comment by A+B=bffsb
2009-04-16 07:55:48

just kidding!!!!

what tom did was not right a guy should never hit a woman!!!!

i will never think of him the same way!!!

he made himself look terrible!!!!

Comment by ich bin nicht ich
2009-04-16 07:59:35

You don’t know if he hit her and what she did before this!
I dought Tom is the type to hit just anyone!!!!! And he probable didn’t hit her either.

Comment by Vampire Freak
2009-04-16 09:10:26

yea.. u guys listen to the story from one side and that’s WRONG.. u have to listen to the story from both sides before u judge anyone

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Comment by laiila
2009-04-16 10:29:36

yes right !!
nd even if it was true there must be a reason i am 100% sure he just cnt hit her with no reason !!!
although i actually doubt that he did:s..dnt know

 
Comment by Zia
2009-04-16 10:31:24

Laiila, there is never a reason for a man to hit a woman, ever! Never! Ever!

 
Comment by laiila
2009-04-16 10:35:34

i know what u mean !! but myb he was drunk then or smthin u never know…
but actually what i ment to say that this could really be a rumor nd i think it is

 
Comment by Zia
2009-04-16 10:43:26

I hope it’s one big ugly rumor too! With all my heart I hope so!

 
Comment by ich bin nicht ich
2009-04-16 10:52:30

But Zia: there is never a reason to hit anyone. Either it’s a boy hitting a girl or a girl hitting a boy. But there is never a good reason for someone to stalk anothter human and taking away their freedom either.
So as long as we don’t know we have to beleive that he is inocent and that this all is bullshit.

 
Comment by laiila
2009-04-16 11:01:44

right ich bin totaly agree with u

 
Comment by Kippel
2009-04-16 11:03:56

There is never a good reason, but some courts will allow people to claim they were provocted.

That is if it happened.

The girls may just have annoyed him, didn’t get their way, and decided to MAKE UP A STORY OF ABUSE!

If it was at a gas station there should be more witnesses.

it does sound true what they said, they just need Tom’s side of the story.

 
Comment by ich bin nicht ich
2009-04-16 11:22:22

Thank you! :-)

 
Comment by alissa
2009-04-16 11:46:24

*Ich bin nich’ Ich*

for your information there not being stalked, It’s the same as if they were being followed by paparazzi, your right nobody knows what happened, but him being followed around by ppl with cameras isn’t a good reason to lose your temper, IF he hit a girl it doesn’t matter what his side of the story is there’s no reason for any GROWN MAN to put his hands on a woman. and I along with many other fans sure the fuck won’t look at him the same, THAT DOESN’T MAKE US ANY LESS OF FANS. I’ve liked them since they were called devilish and have been seeing them in bars since they were called Develish. so don’t even try and say I’m not a real fan, I’ve liked them longer then almost all of the ppl on here.

 
Comment by Anonymous
2009-04-16 12:08:14

Being followed by fans isn’t being stalked, but if followed by the same people who are crossing property, banging on car windows, swearing at your family and friends. They it could be argued that those people are causing reasonable fear or at least need a restraining order on them for harrassment.

If that were anyone else, they could file a harrassement suit, but stars are expected to put up with it, and I don’t think they mind except when it is like these few girls who follow them constantly

 
Comment by ich bin nicht ich
2009-04-16 12:13:12

we’ll just have to wait and see. By tomorrow this might all be over….

 
 
Comment by TH4ever9
2009-04-16 15:35:02

I think he is too sweet to do that rationally. He probably did hit her, but i dont think he meant it.

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Comment by TH4ever9
2009-04-16 15:51:38

sexist. lets not be sexist.

 
 
Comment by simona from italia
2009-04-16 07:55:59

tom you’re a big shit right now

Comment by ich bin nicht ich
2009-04-16 08:00:05

Wait for the truth. And he is allowed to react!

Comment by Reden
2009-04-16 08:07:42

shut up!! u have no rights to call me a true fan or a not. who are you to say im not a true fan? you dont even know me! and whos tha fucking obsessed fat bitch now??? YOU are supporting HIM cuz YOU are the one whos OBSESSED. YOU are totally BLIND girl FACE IT!! HE IS WRONG and if i hate him for this NOTHING IS UR BUSINESS SO STFU!! PLEASE okay???

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Comment by ich bin nicht ich
2009-04-16 08:15:52

nah, we have had a lot of discussions about stalkers here.
And I can so understand why he reacted. He’s a human and as a human you need your privacy.

I support Tom. not for hitting, but for reacting. He just can’t stay calm all of the time. Now we just have to wait for the TRUE story. As a gastation it is all been caught on cameras. So we will learn the truth.

And I will still think TH is the best even if Tom reacts. That’s his Prerogative

 
Comment by Vampire Freak
2009-04-16 09:12:14

guys how u do this ???? seriously yesterday u was like OH TOM! I LOVE YOU TOM! and today TOM you’re a big shit!!!!!!!! can’t u just WAIT and see what he would say about this ?

 
Comment by Rach
2009-04-16 09:18:01

I agree. We shouldn’t be too hasty.

If the German prosecution arrests him and he gets charged, THEN we can judge. But I doubt it’ll go that far.

 
Comment by ich bin nicht ich
2009-04-16 10:05:19

Me???? I still think TOM is HOT!!! I hope you mean the other girls!
I am still waiting for the truth

 
Comment by Vampire Freak
2009-04-16 10:17:47

I mean italia’s comment and some other comments. really theres annoyin comments

 
Comment by ich bin nicht ich
2009-04-16 10:27:08

YES!!!!!!!!!!!
My God. How can they start hating him for a rumor? What is this????????

 
Comment by laiila
2009-04-16 10:32:56

GUYS!!!!
the one with glasses said he LOOKED LIKE TOM KAULITZ BUT HE ISNT SURE !!
SO IT COULD ABSOLOUTLY NOT BE HIM !!
wait until we get more informations
nd i think it is absoloutly just a rumor

 
Comment by ich bin nicht ich
2009-04-16 10:54:38

Ohhhhhh IT LOOKED LIKE…. Hahha When was this? As for the past 3 mounths Tom has been here with me (I wish….)

 
Comment by laiila
2009-04-16 11:05:52

in the video he said it seemed like its tom kaulitz from tokio hotel !! which means could bee a rumor

hahah i wondered too ich bin how could he do smthin like this thihi x)

 
Comment by ich bin nicht ich
2009-04-16 11:27:47

Hihi
Tomorrow we will probable all be laughting about it

Maybe Tom doesn’t even know about this rumors.

 
Comment by Lena
2009-04-16 11:58:51

hahahahha i can soo imagine TOm waking up and its all “wassss Iz Hitz a voman ???? ” “Wass iz on Die news?” SCHIESSE … haha i bet he doesnt even no if its a rumor … and like georg will find out first when hes like watching TV and be all WTF …

 
Comment by ich bin nicht ich
2009-04-16 13:02:33

Hahahahh OMG

Poor Tom!!!!!
Hope he goes to the websites and ses all the supports he gets!

 
Comment by MzKaulitz
2009-04-16 13:07:54

Then Bill will sit him down and give him a talkin’-to, while Tom is still like “WTF?” Thanks for lightening things up, Lena. We don’t know if this is true, so we all need to calm down.

 
Comment by laiila
2009-04-16 13:13:07

am sure we all be laughin about this then :)

 
Comment by ich bin nicht ich
2009-04-16 13:52:33

Hope you are right.
I wish TH.com was open and we could get a statement from Tom. It’s been like 24 houres. Maybe he’s just like Bill with that girl who “met him online” - it’s to stupid to even get mentioned

 
Comment by laiila
2009-04-16 14:32:53

i knw it is..soon there will be smthin they wnt be leaving us hanging lol

 
 
Comment by TH4ever9
2009-04-16 15:40:01

I get the reacting thing. But i dont think hitting her just for being annoying is right. Sure she was annoying and shouldnt have pushed him the second time, but i think she didnt deserve that much. But she should have also understood the condition Tom is in, he wont care anymore. He is too stressed out to care. Everyone has been hard on the guys.
We should really wait for his side of the story.
Lets not be so harsh on Tom, reden.

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Comment by ammerianne
2009-04-16 08:09:25

er… i know she was invading his privacy or something and we dont know the real story….
but yeah , a guy should never hit a girl.
that’s all i’m saying.
guys will always be stronger than girls and that’s what makes it..
i dont know how to describe that.
i mean, if i was a normal person and if i’m not a big fan of tokio hotel, i’d say something else,
but i cant help that i really do love tokio hotel.
but i cant escape it this time.
it’s not the right thing to do.
tom has been pissed with his fans.
first is the yelling at fan..
now is hitting a fan.
i think he might have some real problems that we might not see before.

maybe he’s depressed?
maybe he’s exhausted?
maybe he’s annoyed?

i dont know why, but i am sooooooo danm worried about not only tom, but the whole tokio hotel’s health physically and mentally.
i think the attention is really getting to them.i mean, if I was hit by tom, i dont know how i’ll feel.

and i’m really sorry for the girl who’ve been hit by tom.

sorta serve her right for “dirtying” tom’s car though.

but i really pity she was hit by someone she liked.

Comment by ich bin nicht ich
2009-04-16 08:18:28

maybe this girls has been standing outside their studio all day long….
We do not know the truth. And if he had really hit her she would not only get a swelling bellow her eye would she?
Well, I don’t know. Maybe Tom is a abuser…. But I dought it.

Comment by ammerianne
2009-04-16 08:23:29

yeah, i know.
i’ve expexted this ever since he shouted at the fan.
i think he really got some probs.
he just never show his true feelings.
he faced the world and will be facing it again.
i’m very concern about his health the most.

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Comment by ammerianne
2009-04-16 08:24:18

i mean, expected.

 
Comment by ich bin nicht ich
2009-04-16 08:28:37

yeah, what we see is not always the truth.
He might look like a sweet very young cute boy, but underneed all that it is a stallion
He’s like a Porche in a wolksvagon Beatle appearance

 
Comment by MzKaulitz
2009-04-16 13:08:59

That’s hot! I mean… the Porsche comparison. XD

 
Comment by ich bin nicht ich
2009-04-16 13:53:25

The man is HOT!!!!!

 
 
 
Comment by TH4ever9
2009-04-16 15:41:21

Lets not be sexist.
A girl can take a punch.I should know. Its not that guys are stronger, they are just more aggressive. Face it, shivalry is dead.

Comment by MzKaulitz
2009-04-16 16:13:58

I know. When a guy hits a girl, he’s considered to be the spawn of Satan. What if a girl hit a guy, or a girl hit a girl? It’s all still violence, and it’s all still wrong. But chivalry isn’t dead. We still have Bill. ^_^

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Comment by Zia
2009-04-16 20:26:26

Violence is all bad. But when an adult abuses a child, or an elderly person, or a guy lashes out at a woman the imbalance of power is particularly jarring. That’s not being sexist or ageist. And yes guys ARE stronger, much stronger. If women were of equal strength to men there would be a whole lot less rapes and domestic violence victims as a we’d be on equal standing to fight them off.

 
 
 
 
Comment by ammerianne
2009-04-16 08:13:10

but but…. she didnt really to be hit for that.
maybe just another yell from tom.
maybe he have anger management probs.

Comment by Zia
2009-04-16 10:26:25

Guys this is killing me! Tom acted badly, very badly, IF this is true. There is NO EXCUSE whatsoever for hitting a girl, ever! IF she did knock on his window he should have ignored her, end of story. I don’t care how annoyed he was.

Comment by Kide
2009-04-16 11:15:16

“There is no excuse for hitting a girl!” So what if it was a girl? That has absolutely nothing to do with this matter! It only makes it even more obvious that she gave Tom a reason to hit her. I’m astounded that people don’t take into account what she did. What she has done.

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Comment by laiila
2009-04-16 11:22:04

zia cheer up this could be a RUMOR wait for it.. am sure we will get more news soon and hope they r good ones

 
Comment by ich bin nicht ich
2009-04-16 13:56:13

I bet they are!!! If it was true it would be all over by now.
What tv-station was this on? Local tv for a street in a small german country village?

 
Comment by laiila
2009-04-16 14:40:12

well RTL is one of the biggest channels in germany :)
hehe

 
Comment by Zia
2009-04-16 15:18:04

Oh Kide, what you’re saying is if someone bugs me I have every right to lash out because they “deserve” it. Do you really mean that??

 
Comment by ich bin nicht ich
2009-04-17 02:00:13

Was it on RTL? Not yesterday anyway. I watched ALL the news there

 
Comment by Kide
2009-04-17 05:38:15

Zia, if they bugged him like that then of course they “deserve it”. Did Tom deserve what he got from the girls? And I don’t think this is about ‘deserving’, it’s what had to be done by Tom in order to get someone away from vandalising his car. Pushing someone away from -that- is really not unnatural, nor wrong. I just wish someone else would have been there to do it before Tom, so it wouldn’t have caused such a scandal. The girl needed to be removed from vandalising the car. That was not her place. I’m sorry if you agree otherwise. She should not have been there.

 
Comment by laiila
2009-04-17 07:13:02

they deserve it okay but not with hittin with yelling then or smthin but hitting is too much(although this story could even not be true)but only IF..

 
 
Comment by TH4ever9
2009-04-16 15:45:18

“No exuse for hitting a girl?” Know im getting more mad.
THIS IS SEXIST!
what, are girls fragile little blood and bone packages?
And guys are made of rock?
NEIN!
girls can take a punch, but i dont think tom should have hit her just for being a bit pushy. Its not like she was stealing a pic or selling him to the papparazzi.
and i hate that the “he hit a girl part” is makin u guys say “oooh he hit a girl…”
SO WHAT?
he should NOT have hit ANYONE but just cuz shes a girl doesnt mean she didnt have a fault.

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Comment by Mel
2009-04-16 19:53:19

hell yeah i agree with u, am fed up of the whole dnt hit cos shes a girl thing, an am a girl, if am in a fight i’d rather it was fair.
dude i can kick the asses of pretty much most of the guys in my street
seriously girl boy watever, am not agreeing with him hitting anyone, besides the bitch probably deserved it, or she’s making it up

 
Comment by laiila
2009-04-17 00:20:40

mel u r right !

 
 
 
Comment by little me
2009-04-16 14:43:29

Maybe, but you can’t really say that he has an anger management problem just because he raised his voice to a fan..

Comment by laiila
2009-04-16 14:56:48

haha what? Noway

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Comment by TH4ever9
2009-04-16 15:48:15

but punching her when she didnt do so much damage as papparazzii isnt “raising your voice.”
I dont think he has problems, he is just STRESSED.

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Comment by Duffy
2009-04-16 08:15:11

I don’t believe that Tom did that!!! I am 10000% SURE that She done something very very bad to him like that girl [remember?] outside of the studio… Tom fight with her..!!If u think a bit..its so annoying… cause some fans don’t understand that they need space n’ privacy! But ok… lets see what he will tell about this!

Comment by ich bin nicht ich
2009-04-16 08:20:02

They are not fans, they are fanatics.
I don’t beleive so either. Anyway as this was a gasstation we will know the truth soon as there are cameras everywhere there.

Comment by Reden
2009-04-16 08:21:12

yeah like “you are the real fan of all the fans then” *sarcastic*

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Comment by ich bin nicht ich
2009-04-16 08:24:09

No, but as a fan I like thir music and wants them to have their privacy.
You should be a standup commedian

 
Comment by Reden
2009-04-16 08:28:13

Oh yeah? and what about you? I bet ure a “i dont know anything im just obsessed, i cannot see anything, if tom kills a girl i will still think he did it for his self defence” girl.

i dont know why, but i think i hate you!!!

 
Comment by ich bin nicht ich
2009-04-16 08:29:57

My god calm down girl!!!!! No need to start a war.
I’m on Toms site unless he really hit her, and you’re not!
Live with it!

 
Comment by Reden
2009-04-16 08:33:07

im at no ones site! its just that it really irritates me when certain tokio hotel fans ignores their mistakes and claims that “th never does anything wrong”!!

 
Comment by ich bin nicht ich
2009-04-16 08:36:28

Are you new here? We have been discussing this for a long time now!
Most people in here wants the stalkers to go away. And it is not the first time Tom has reacted!
But I bet noone here supports anyone to hit anyone.
Not even hitting Tom’s car!!!!

Have you seen some of this stalkers videoes?????? They are SCARY!!!!

 
Comment by Reden
2009-04-16 08:40:05

Im not talking about the stalkers! im talking about you,tom,ur selfishness to tom, and the girl,and human rights!

and you know this girl at all! how come you know if she was stalking tokio hotel or not? maybe she was on the same road and randomly noticed that tom kaulitz was sitting in his car. to bad that dude in the car IS A SICKO MENTAL FREAK!!

 
Comment by Reden
2009-04-16 08:40:43

you do not know at all*

 
Comment by ich bin nicht ich
2009-04-16 08:44:22

how do YOU know this is even true???? Did YOU see Tom in this video except the old fottage? Have you heard Tom talking about it? Have YOU seen Tom hitting her????
Do YOU know that this girls did not camp outside their house for a week?
“to bad that dude in the car IS A SICKO MENTAL FREAK!!”

Go and have a chill pill will you?
and http://www.jonasbrothers.com is more your type of idols I guess. they never does anything wrong. They are a preatchers sons! ( now THAT’S sarcasm)

TH are real….

 
Comment by Reden
2009-04-16 08:49:31

like who the HELL is talking about the JON’ARSES!!!!
im using something which you havent go yet, A BRAIN!
please if u have one, please make sure to use it AT LEAST once in a day will you for “tom the mental sicko” please? yes yes go ahead use ur BRAIN! and REALISE THAT IM RIGHT!

doesnt matter if tom wasnt in the video.
if something came on the news on the tv like this:
1 million dollars have been stolne from blablablal
we are suspecting robert peter for this according to some eye vitnesses
what WILL YOU SAY?!
“oh i dont have a brain, i do not believe it becasue I DID NOT SEE IT WITH MY OWN EYES HE WAS NOT IN THE TV NEWS PAPER!!”

 
Comment by Reden
2009-04-16 08:51:06

you would probly say:
“oh my love robert would never do this. i hope its not true and the media gets out as loosers, oh and im a sucker” :)

 
Comment by ich bin nicht ich
2009-04-16 08:53:57

calm down, take a shower and waith for the truth honey!!!!!

 
Comment by Reden
2009-04-16 08:57:05

I take a shower everyday. let me guess u never takes one until u get mad on tom for huggin another girl and gets into the shower to calm down?
sorry but i do not do this stupidy things!

 
Comment by ich bin nicht ich
2009-04-16 10:10:09

my god…..

 
Comment by laiila
2009-04-16 10:39:36

this will never end !! what u both r sayin is nonscense..
we all have to wait for more informations here i bet it is a rumor !

 
Comment by alissa
2009-04-16 11:58:15

Reden* I agree with you 100%

 
Comment by Reden
2009-04-16 12:04:56

Thankuuu!!!!! At least theres SOMEONE who gettting my point!

 
Comment by laiila
2009-04-16 13:53:19

what point?
r u callin this a point?! am sorry but for me this is nonsense

 
2009-04-16 14:13:36

Ok, so let me get this straight… You all are fighting because.. you all have different opinions?!

Ok, that is NO reason to fight, I mean its not impossible to not fight baout it, but you’re being child-ish. Just wait for the real shyt to pop-up then see who’s talkin shyt.

Chill out, fool. Damn. This is RUBISH NONSENCE AND BULL SHYT! YOU ALL NEED TO CALM THE FUCK DOWN.

Gawd.

 
Comment by laiila
2009-04-16 14:44:05

am not fighting i said the same as u we all have different opinions and we all gotta respect it but sme ppl dnt here and that what i was talkin about :)

 
Comment by Bailee
2009-04-16 20:44:02

umm…. im just saying here but why are we fighing?? if Tom did it he might have a good reason we alll know toms not a sick mental freak and even if he is we all know every TH fan will support him
if he didnt do it good cos Toms not like that
besides i doubt this is true cos we would have heard some more info on this then just this info we have now so please ppl every one calm down
we all are Tokio Hotel fans here we stick together
no matter what happens stop fighing and plis do you think the TH guys want there fans fighing with each other? we already fight with the JB fans the Miley fans and all the other ppl who arnt fans of TH ok so ppl stop please there is no reason at all to fight just stop

like i said before TH fans stick together no matter what happens
I know TH isnt perfect no one is so just calm your self PPl we will find more info out prolly later ok so stop

TH fans stick together!

 
Comment by penpey
2009-08-22 14:40:03

ok u guys are strange and yes reden or what ever ur name is u really need to shut the f*k up
i c both of ur points
tom did sumthing bad but if u stick around u will c that she was stalking him and his family and tokio hotel
ich bin nich ich
god ur a reall good fan and i feel the same
and i admire you for trying to end the argument in the first place

 
 
 
 
Comment by anna
2009-04-16 08:15:31

maybe he just had a bad day?

idk, i dont blame him if he did hit her though…

 
Comment by ich bin nicht ich
2009-04-16 08:19:02

:-)

 
Comment by ammerianne
2009-04-16 08:29:56

and i omg~!
i just read some commments on you tube~!
and they said that the fans HIT TOM”S CAR~!!!!
ahhhhhhhh~!!
no~! that’s tom’s baby~!

Comment by Reden
2009-04-16 08:31:29

Not exactly. She throw the smoke back to tom - which might have hit the car. So what its just a little smoke, doesnt mean ur gonna hit her.he could have screamed to her and stuff like that but hitting? omg save me lord!

Comment by ammerianne
2009-04-16 08:41:25

i know. but they did hit his car.
that’s not so nice either.
they should’ve just walk away
like i’ll if he did that to me.
mog~! save me too ~!

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Comment by Kide
2009-04-16 11:19:50

Why is it so much worse for the girl to get slapped, than for Tom to get MENTAL damage, as well as the car to get damaged? That car is very expensive and that girl has been stalking him and his family for ages so give Tom a break. The girl has done a lot more damage to him than his slap did to her. :(( Take he had no gas to leave? What then? You can’t make phone calls on gas stations, and if they vandalize his car, he has to do something. Going out to -talk- would 99% not have resulted in talking from the girls, so Go Tom!

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Comment by alissa
2009-04-16 12:00:16

how do you know shes been stalking him for ages? Do you even know if what your saying is true?

 
Comment by Kide
2009-04-17 05:33:30

That’s what I have heard until now, that she’s camping at their studio and has been to their home many times. Also bugged their family and friends. And posted stalker pics recently. Right now we don’t know if anything’s true.

 
 
 
Comment by ich bin nicht ich
2009-04-16 08:31:38

Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

I bet she got the swollen eye from hitting her head against his car!!!! LOL (need some humour in this as well right?)

I have to watch that. Is it all in German maybe?

Comment by ammerianne
2009-04-16 08:35:29

yeah.
but there’s translation in the description.

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Comment by ammerianne
2009-04-16 08:33:25

IT WAS ON THE DESCRIPTION TOO~!
two of the you tube vids said that the fans hit tom’s car after he threw the ciggarette at her.
mein gott~!

Comment by ich bin nicht ich
2009-04-16 08:40:22

Why did they do that????

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Comment by ammerianne
2009-04-16 08:42:59

because they were mad at tomk for throwing the ciggarette.
and then the fan put off the ciggarette on tom’s car or something,
and they started to hit his car.
then…
tom give her a nuckle sandwich~!

 
Comment by ich bin nicht ich
2009-04-16 08:45:57

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
oj…. in that case I hope Tom gets help. He should not hit her!

 
Comment by ammerianne
2009-04-16 08:54:53

i think..
i was the fan’s fault too..
i mean, tom’s car, tom’s baby.
but yeah, he shouldnt have hit throw the ciggarette at her.
but sometimes i think it was only for his self protection, i mean, THEY WERE HITTING HIS CAR~!
i’d get scared if people were hitting my car.
it said that tom left the place immmediately before the police arrived,and tom didnt make any statemant of what happened yet,
so this story is made by the fan itself.
so they really did hit his car.

and i think tom didnt really meant to hit her..
i mean, he’s well built with muscle and all that,
the condition may have been worst.
but i dont know really.

i think both are wrong at the same time.
but yeah, a guy should never hit a girl~!

but a girl should never think a guy will not hit her no matter he is your idol.

 
Comment by ich bin nicht ich
2009-04-16 09:02:07

No, he should never hit anyone!!!
But he could hav gotten a blackuot. We do not know what happened. And as long as we don’t know and Tom has not said anything we should not beleive this girls. The might just feel overlooked. And maybe she fell as he drove away…

We don’t know. But I feel that it was ok for Tom to react strongly. But not hitting!

 
Comment by ammerianne
2009-04-16 09:07:24

wow, this is weird, i you were supporting tom sooo storngly before..
what made you change your mind??

i mean, yeah~!
a guy should never hit a girl~!

 
Comment by ich bin nicht ich
2009-04-16 10:14:52

Noh, I am VERY supportive to Toms reacting. But I don’t beleive in violence, so I don’t like it if he hit her. Allthough during all our discussions here and watching some stalker videoes I can really understand him.
I think that he will still be the hottest of all hot if he did hit her (I don’t beleive he did, but beleive is not knowing). But IF he did I hope he get a lot of help. And that the bloody stalkers understands the pressure they put on this boys and leave them alone wen they are not at work (At that means leave the studio alone as well!) And not put their homes and licence plates on youtube!

 
Comment by laiila
2009-04-16 10:43:28

let me tell u !
on youtube they say she wanted to have his autograph on their cd so he grind his cigarette on it then she hit the car so he jumped frm his car nd hit her !!
thats what they said nd on youtbe videos some say it “looked like” tom kaulitz so it could not be him !!

 
 
 
 
Comment by Nel
2009-04-16 08:31:42

Well..if i were on his place,i would do absolutely the same.Who the fuck is she to touch his car and to photo him when he doesn;t want to be pictured?THese really aint no fans,these are fanatics/…
Actually,it’s very pafetic for Tom to fight with a girl :D *creepy smile* ,but maybe it’s her fault…
I’ll wait for more ;]]

Comment by ich bin nicht ich
2009-04-16 08:33:29

Yeah, we will know the truth about this. I hope the girl comes out as a looser!!!!

Comment by Reden
2009-04-16 08:35:43

seee!! THERE yes exactly there” u are hoping the girl is wrong! *shame shame*

WHERE ARE THE OLD FANS makes me wanna cryy

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Comment by penpey
2009-08-22 14:42:32

reden i dont think you a prper fan
no offence

 
 
 
 
Comment by Mischa
2009-04-16 08:33:37

so is this for real or what ??????

Comment by ich bin nicht ich
2009-04-16 08:39:06

tom is not on the film and the management has not confirmed it so we can only hope it’s not!

Comment by Reden
2009-04-16 08:42:20

i hope its true!! so u fans can realise what they really are able to do. and that htey doesnt respect u fans at all. they like u fans becasue they need you. theyre SIMPLY using you. think again. no fans.no succes.no popularity.no money.no cars.no gummi bears!

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Comment by ich bin nicht ich
2009-04-16 08:47:22

You fans??? If you are not a fan… what are you doing here???? Making an ass of yourselves?
Oh, I get it… You’re the girl he “hit”. Or are you that Natalie or whatever who had sex with Bill for four days?????

 
Comment by Reden
2009-04-16 08:52:24

Its not ur problem who i am. It not your PROBLEM STOP STICKING UR UGLY FAT NOSE INTO OTHERS BUSINEES!!!

ure worser than the KINDERGARDEN KIDS!

 
Comment by laiila
2009-04-16 10:47:10

hey you “reden” u gotta shut up and get ur self a life nd close this window !!!
coz u r not a th fan nd this site is only for th fans!
we all wish this is a rumor nd u r sayin “i hope not” !!!
if u think they r using their fans so u really dnt have to be here or commentin here now coz u r not a fan and we all hate Haters here !!

 
Comment by alissa
2009-04-16 12:05:57

I think they care about us but part of what reden is saying makes sense, I hope what shes saying is not true, I’ve liked them along time to just stop respecting them and thinking they don’t respect there fans. but Reden makes sense….

 
Comment by laiila
2009-04-16 13:16:00

what sense r u kiddin me ?
how could u guys think about this??!
however thats ur opinion guys but i am sure its wrong

 
Comment by ich bin nicht ich
2009-04-16 13:59:57

Stop respecting THEM???? Did the others beate up someone too?
NOT THAT I THINK TOM DID IT!!! :-)

 
Comment by alissa
2009-04-16 17:26:56

Sorry but if tom did hit her, He loses alot of peoples respect, and this also makes the rest of the band look bad. Ja this is my opinion.

If this is true: If I was the girl that got hit I would have fucking punched Tom back in the face. I love Tom with all my heart but if it’s okay for you to hit me, then it’s okay for me to hit you. Or I would have Kicked his car and said “!WHAT NOW BITCH!”

I wouldn’t call the cops cause I would be way to embarassed to make a report saying “My favortie artist just punched me in the face, Cause I put His Own ciggarette out on his car”.

saying this shit does not make me any less of a fan or mean that I love them anyless, So don’t even try.

 
Comment by laiila
2009-04-17 00:26:51

u r right in this for sure but what we r tryin to say here that still nthin is official we gotta here toms side too u know
so noone cn blame tom either the girl now what we r all sayin is rubbish now coz we all need to WAIT.

 
 
 
Comment by Rach
2009-04-16 08:51:05

Maybe we’ll know in a month :) I don’t know… I hope not!

Comment by laiila
2009-04-16 11:09:09

i dnt think it will take long though..-hopefully-

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Comment by ich bin nicht ich
2009-04-16 11:45:34

In a month it’s all forgotten :-)

 
Comment by Vampire Freak
2009-04-16 13:03:26

huny it’s hust a week. no couples of days with some new news all of this trash will be forgotten. like that one with gustav being a father! do u see any one talkin about this ? NO. ppl forget old gossip as soon as they got the new one

 
Comment by laiila
2009-04-16 13:19:44

yea right even if there isnt any new ones this is just stupid

 
Comment by ich bin nicht ich
2009-04-16 14:01:50

Hahahha Yeah. Right… Gustav…. hahahha But it has been a recordbreaking entry of posts today though! Hasn’t it?

 
Comment by MzKaulitz
2009-04-16 14:46:34

And have you noticed this is the only thing that has been posted today? Nothing about the album being delayed. This is about all we can handle right now.

 
Comment by laiila
2009-04-16 15:02:12

yea although in other sites in said it has been delayed till september :s
plz not plz !!

 
 
 
 
Comment by Rach
2009-04-16 08:49:47

We don’t know the whole story. Everyone just calm down…

But I will say this:
If Tom DID hit the girl - after whatever provocation! - I won’t be a fan anymore.

That’s it. Plain and simple.

I don’t give a damn what she did or said, blah blah blah. There are many ways to resolve a situation, and violence should never be condoned.

So I’ll just sit and wait. The truth will come out eventually…

Comment by Reden
2009-04-16 08:55:23

Are you the angel?? seriously FINALLY someone who means the same as me!!

 
Comment by ich bin nicht ich
2009-04-16 08:57:41

we will know the truth some day! There are bout good and bad about Big Brother. And at a gas station… I am supriced it’s not allready out. The owner should been able to make good money on this. I know it’s bad, but it’s reality.

 
Comment by ammerianne
2009-04-16 08:59:12

me too.
but the fans attacked tom’s car.
i mean, it was on the news, rtl punkt.
and the hitte girl and her four fans were the only one who gave a statement of what happend and it means they admitted that they hit tom’s car.

but yeah,
a guy should never ever hit a girl~!!!!!!!!

Comment by Rach
2009-04-16 09:14:24

Ah. See, I don’t understand German (at ALL) and haven’t checked Youtube lately, so I haven’t heard about damage to the car.

The thing is, we’re all speculating right now… it’s all hearsay. I agree that Tom is innocent until proven guilty, what I meant to say is that IF the story is true, I will be completely disgusted with Tom. When something like this happens (if it really did happen) it shows part of someone’s character. No matter how angry you get, there’s a boundary that’s crossed when you physically strike another person’s body. It takes serious conceit to go that far…

Anyways, we’ll find out eventually. :)

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Comment by ammerianne
2009-04-16 09:18:32

yeah, me too.
even if i hate tom,
i’ll always love bill ~!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
hahhahaha~!
god, i’m totally wasted.

 
Comment by ich bin nicht ich
2009-04-16 10:17:14

We’ll have to wait for a statement from Tom. I am watching VIVA de and there is absolutely nothing about this there, so maybe it’s nothing…..

 
Comment by MzKaulitz
2009-04-16 14:53:44

Yeah, maybe it’s nothing. I hope you’re right! I’m sort of freakin’ out right now, so maybe tomorrow I’ll realize how ridiculous I’m being when this all blows over. This really is breaking my heart, though.

 
Comment by Rach
2009-04-16 15:15:38

Yeah :) I’m really upset too.

 
Comment by Zia
2009-04-16 15:32:32

This is the most awful, awful rumor ever, but some of the comments are mind-blowing also. Hopefully, like you said MzK, (or do we get to call you Ashonna now?) this will all blow over very soon.

 
Comment by MzKaulitz
2009-04-16 16:32:45

Yeah, I just need some answers. Some people are saying just go to sleep, or something. How the hell am I supposed to sleep? I can’t imagine how the boys must be feeling. XD And you can call me whichever you like, but Ashonna is my actual name, lol.

 
Comment by Rach
2009-04-16 20:04:05

What freaks me the most is the lack of reliable information. Tokiohotelnetwork said we were supposed to hear an official statement this morning, but obviously that wasn’t released so… no choice but to wait.

God, I have NO capacity for patience with stuff like this. I really need to get back to my schoolwork.

Going to try to restrain myself from logging on again until tomorrow morning, darlings :)

 
Comment by Zia
2009-04-16 20:38:42

Me to. I’m supposed to be logging on to my online texts and finishing my math lab and instead keep coming back to this which in turn is upsetting the hell out of me. I’m escaping to the beach again tomorrow, I need to decompress.

 
 
 
 
Comment by Vampire Freak
2009-04-16 09:08:37

why some of you guys rush and attack Tom ! At least give him the time to defend himself. you listen to the story from the fan, can’t you wait to listen to his reasons or whatever really happened ? then what If all of that didn’t happen? maybe the fan wanted some attention and made up a whole story. u guys can’t hate him or say bad words about him without givin him the chance to defend himself.

and well who knows what those fans did ? Tom is a human. humans get angry sometimes they can’t control their anger and do stupid acts. at the end they r humans.. and if that true I believe that the girl really did somethin stupid.

Comment by J@y Breezy
2009-04-16 09:09:49

true true imma wait till tom says something

Comment by ich bin nicht ich
2009-04-16 10:18:19

Right!!!!
And we all remember this Natalie girl who “had met Bill on the net”. Someone will do anything for attention.

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Comment by laiila
2009-04-16 10:50:23

yes so true !!
noone believed the thing with bill nd this could be the same thin with tom here we really have to do nthin but wait

 
Comment by ich bin nicht ich
2009-04-16 11:00:05

Uff… I feel sorry for him eitherway.
Hope he’s ok.

 
Comment by laiila
2009-04-16 11:11:26

yea am tryin to imagine what he is probably sayin now??!
am sure he is so damn mad !!

 
Comment by ich bin nicht ich
2009-04-16 11:31:33

Yeah, It doesn’t take much empathi to understand that he reacts to this.
I would so NOT have his fame for all the money in the world. I need to be able to buy toilet paper without everyone stearing at me!!!!

 
Comment by laiila
2009-04-16 13:24:32

i know it is SO annoying

 
 
 
 
Comment by J@y Breezy
2009-04-16 09:08:51

imma big fan of Tom but he should have never resulted 2 violence this makes me sad 2 c wat kinda guy he truley iz …. n i saw her eye it was preety bad …. i feel poor 4 the girl

Comment by J@yBreezy
2009-04-16 14:28:50

NEVER MIND WHAT I SAID I JUST WANT 2 HEAR BOTH SIDES OF THE STORY MAY B TOM DIDNT EVEN HIT HER SHE MAY HAVE HIT HERSELF BUT EITHER WAY IM NOT BEILEVING NOTHING TILL I HEAR BOTH SIDES OF THE STORY

 
 
Comment by yumika
2009-04-16 09:09:39

he’s just like chris brown. i can’t believe tom would do this, we don’t know if he did this for sure, but i really don’t understand everybody saying that tom did the right thing. HE HIT A GIRL. IMAGINE IF YOU WERE THE GIRL WHO GOT HIT.

Comment by Zia
2009-04-16 10:38:58

Chris Brown is off my ipod - what an ass!

Comment by MzKaulitz
2009-04-16 13:12:15

Chris Brown was never on my iPod. I thought I was being too harsh when I said Rihanna could do a lot better. Turns out, I was right…

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Comment by Zia
2009-04-16 15:36:41

Indeed you were!

 
Comment by J@yBreezy
2009-04-16 17:58:54

if Tom really did hit this girl i’ll b very sad … but if he didnt i’ll b so free rite now
*sighs*
all i can Think about is Bill how is he coping this and is he ok 2?

this just makes me depressed

poor Bill

 
 
 
 
Comment by StacyShamrock
2009-04-16 09:11:53

Come on you guys, now you are fighting each other. We don’t know why or what really happened. This action was wrong to take if that is the case, but don’t be a hater. I have seen fan’s obsess on getting pics & autograph’s. The person they are looking for will be with their family or in this case it will be real late & they are just to tired. They ask the fan(s) please not right now & they get very insistent. We love the guys for what they do, they entertain, but they are human not robots. We need to learn to respect their privacy & things like this would not happen. Everyone needs to stand back & let this situation unravle. Let the boys know you are still there for them in the end. Be true to them, what if this is an obsessed fan, that just did’nt get her way?

Comment by Rach
2009-04-16 09:16:03

If she was a crazed fan who wouldn’t stop, then why didn’t he just go about his business, ignore her, and DRIVE OFF?

Comment by ammerianne
2009-04-16 09:19:26

obviously he got some anger management issues.
that’s for sure.

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Comment by Viktoria
2009-04-16 10:17:58

this comment makes me really annoyed & angry !!
“obviously he got some anger management issues” ? wtf ?
you don’t even know if it’s true ! but anyway, I think it’s would be a normal reaction ! these people walk up to their studio, starts filming into the windows, screams like psychos, and when not restrained almost attack them and pull their clothes, hands etc. so before you go and say that he has issues, I would like to see how long you would last with that chaos, I’m surprised he hasn’t acted out yet !

 
 
Comment by ich bin nicht ich
2009-04-16 11:34:20

ehhh if she or some of her friends was in front of his car he wouldn’t be able to drive away would he? And we will have to wait for the truth. Or just forget about this if we never hear of it again.

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Comment by Viktoria
2009-04-16 09:20:06

just to put it this way, he wouldn’t have done it without a reason, I mean, SOME OF the fans are so fucking crazy, they don’t even act like humans ! they are animals ! and of course he gets sick of that ! If they would just act normal, then they’d probably get a picture with him, but I understand him completely, if this is even true, I just have one thing to say, GO TOM !! Some people should be ashamed of themselves !

Comment by Vampire Freak
2009-04-16 09:37:43

“If they would just act normal, then they’d probably get a picture with him” that’s True. maybe the girls were acting stupid okay okay I know that shouldn’t end up with tom hiting the girl! but AGAIN we don’t know the whole story! we can’t judge him!

Comment by ich bin nicht ich
2009-04-16 11:05:31

Yeah, and the normal thing to do would be just walking away if he said no. Not hitting his car…. Maybe it wasn’t even Tom in that car Maybe it was his evel twin driving the car…. no wait his twin is NOT EVEL!
Maybe this all just happened in this girls head.

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Comment by Vampire Freak
2009-04-16 13:09:44

“Maybe this all just happened in this girls head.” This could be true a crazy fan want some attention. made up a story. or maybe she asked for autograph and he said no so she got mad and made up a story… whatever. I really hope it’s just ANOTHER SICK RUMOR

 
 
 
 
Comment by isabel
2009-04-16 09:25:05

Ok, calm down people, I´m with Tom, the stalkers sucks, but if i can say Something, please let them alone, is already too much, if Tom puch that girl, i thing was accidental, besides that girls harassing him, please remeber that….. Soooo I´m with you Tom, and I´m sorry for all this circus

Comment by ich bin nicht ich
2009-04-16 11:06:49

I think it’s ok as most people in here are on his site.
And who knows… he might sit in his sofa laughting about us even beleiving in this rumor!!!!
:-)

Comment by Rach
2009-04-16 12:04:21

Laughing? No, this is a potential career-ruiner. Bad publicity is bad publicity… if this really is true, the studio’s story-spinners will be working very frantically right now.

But again, this just came out today. HOPE IT’S NOT TRUE

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Comment by stephanie
2009-04-16 09:35:18

You know how tokio hotel is always asked whats the craziest rumor you’ve heard? well this one is gonna be the new one for tom…..you all need to get over it and realize this has like a 1% chance of being real….stop arguing on who are real fans and who arent…its probably fake and if it is real tom is an ass for hitting a girl

Comment by ich bin nicht ich
2009-04-16 11:02:24

Hahahahaha GOOD ONE!!!!!

 
 
Comment by Kay
2009-04-16 09:49:42

While I do not condone ANYONE hitting anyone I am not going to jump on anyone defense since we do not know the full story since it was convenient for Tom not to be around when the police was called.

But question, has anyone seen those girls who did that recording of them harassing Tom?, who’s to say that it was not the same girls. I mean I can see the scenario they see Tom driving and they stand where he has to go so he has to stop.

Then each get on different sides of the car so he can not move out, frustrated he smokes then finishes it throws it out of the window. The girl thinks or want to make it seems like he threw it at her so she picks it up and smashes it on his window and I have a feeling that the others as well as the girl was hitting his car to get his attention.

Then they finally get Tom out the car and they harass him more things get heated he tries to get back into the car but is prevented and thus the hit happens who is to say it was not an accident and they are using it as an excuse, who know we were not there but think about it.

I hate it when women say they want equal rights then get into a fight with a guy and do anything they want to him and expect him to take it, most guys will take it but if you keep at them like anyone else will fight back.

I have seen ex friends who had a fight with guys and deserved to get the crap knocked out of them. but that is just me who thanks if you want equal right’s it should be equal all the way and I am not talking about abuse but a fight is a fight and stupid things happen.

And if a star gets into a fight with be it a man or women and things happen I am not going to say ‘Oh I am not a fan of theirs anymore!’ because that shows what kind of rose colored glasses you have on and any bad or real human thing happens you bail. I am still his fan and I do not know what happen but all was in the wrong and if they were in a fight the police should have been called right away not when he leaves so only one side is told.

Back to the question, anyone has see those girls on the recording harassing Tom?

Comment by ich bin nicht ich
2009-04-16 11:10:37

I am NOT for violence but IF he hit her, YES he most have had a reason.
And IF this was true I bet the video would be out from the gas station a long time ago as they would have made lots of money on it. And it is a public place so they are allowed to sell it I guess….

 
Comment by *
2009-04-16 11:27:46

THANK YOU!!!!! i agree. Women whine and complain for equal rights. but, they still want special rights because they are women. Don’t mess with a man, don’t disrespect and expect to take your shit every single time!!! Too many women think they can whatever they want and still get away with it.

I don’t condone Tom’s actions. He did it out of anger/frustration. I also think the girl may have pissed him off so badly that he reacted in such a way. Should he be hated? I don’t think so.

 
Comment by madders
2009-04-16 17:02:54

i TOTALLY and COMPLETLEY agree with you

 
 
Comment by dea
2009-04-16 09:52:06

you guys are sick people because he bounces around on stage with a guitar he can hit a girl in the face!! you are sick!!!!

Comment by ich bin nicht ich
2009-04-16 11:35:54

IT’S A RUOMOR!!! MY GOD! we do not know the truth here!!!!!
And most people here are agains violence. You haven’t read muche here have you?

 
Comment by monica
2009-04-16 11:40:56

I agree, these people get on hear and make it seem like its okay that this girl got hit in the face and thats sad I think i am done with the whole tokio hotel phenom people get brainwashed to easy!
but what makes me sicker is, there where four girls with! who stands around and watches there friend get hit in the face!!! her friends should have been beating the shit outa him weather he was tom k. or not! I wouldn’t have gave a damn what the fans thought of me at that point! kiss my ass any normal HUMAN with any decency would have done somthing. to the girl that got hit, get new friends

Comment by ich bin nicht ich
2009-04-16 13:07:30

THAT IS A GOOD POINT!!!!!!If someone hit my friend he would not droven away with all windows in his car!
So another reson to beleive it’s a lie!
:-/

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Comment by Vampire Freak
2009-04-16 13:14:06

maybe one of her friends give her that punch [part of the story they need proves] lol whatever I just can’t believe this. why he would do that ?

I WANT TO KNOW THE TRUTH

 
 
 
 
Comment by astrid
2009-04-16 09:53:37

um.. geeez i don’t what to say.. but i know tom’s kinda impatient but i don’t know what’s up really. i just hope that tom can explain his side. i just hope, this shit is not true. but if it is, hmm… i don’t what to say… ( ponders really hard ) :)

 
Comment by astrid
2009-04-16 09:59:49

i wonder bill’s reaction to this though… :)

Comment by Vampire Freak
2009-04-16 10:08:56

bill is so delicate I can’t imagine him at all in all of this lol

Comment by ich bin nicht ich
2009-04-16 10:19:38

Oh… poore Bill….. I thought of him too. I hope the stalkers will leave them all alone after this!

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Comment by laiila
2009-04-16 13:27:49

am feeling bad for both of them

 
 
 
 
Comment by Shelbe
2009-04-16 10:04:13

Everyone saying that he did the right thing shut up. Can you imagine if that was you he did that too?
I don’t believe Tom would do that too a fan. He doesn’t seem violent but yeah he is impatient so who knows.
And I agree with astrid, I wonder how Bill reacted

Comment by Vampire Freak
2009-04-16 10:15:10

okay If tom did this it can’t be the right thing. it’s wrong. violence would never solve a problem. but hey I’ll say it again and again we don know the whole thing! as kay said maybe it was an accident. maybe the girls did somethin really stupid. we are not talin about normal fan. theres alot of pics out there for tom with fans ! I think If a girl goand ask for photo or whatever in polite way he would give her or he just say sorry and go his way, but hit her!!!!! I can’t believe this. and If they were the same girls from that recording well SHAME on them… ppl sometimes get so freakin annoying. and he’s just a human being

Comment by ich bin nicht ich
2009-04-16 10:22:24

And why are they hiding in the video???? Why not show their faces?
And all of TH is known to be there for fans who wants an autograph or picture on tour or at work.
And right, we do not know what happened. Maybe this isn’t true at all….

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Comment by laiila
2009-04-16 10:54:21

i mean it cant be that she screamed his name or smthin to get the autograph so he hit her !!
i mean thats absoloutly not the first time when a fan screams infront of them lol so i think even if its true then the girl must ve done smthin. REALLY !

 
Comment by ich bin nicht ich
2009-04-16 11:47:18

Agree!!!! :-)
You don’t get attacked by your idol by been nice and polite

 
Comment by laiila
2009-04-16 13:30:25

yes !! even if he was in a bad mood or whatever this just cnt be the story thats what the others dnt get or they just dnt wanna believe it :(

 
 
 
 
Comment by anna
2009-04-16 10:14:00

Tom is a good boy!!! Would never make a similar thing!!!
I believe that the girl wants only a little popularity!!!!
Tom doesn’t beat the fans!!!!

 
Comment by Count Vampy
2009-04-16 10:16:18

oh..wow..

I don’t really now what to say about this…

but, I guess it’s best for us to just wait until Tomi tells his side of the story. cuz really I don’t believe he would go as far as hitting a fan unless he had a really really REALLY good reason to..

so, I ain’t judging until I hear tho WHOLE story!

for all we now this might not even be true.

I LOVE U TOMI NO MATTER WHAT!!!!!!!! <3 <3 <3

 
Comment by Mikayla
2009-04-16 10:17:38

Woh woh woh ok seriously if thats true why would she call the police i would take a photo and hang it up and be so proud of it seriously its all her fault a ciggerate on his window! honostly thats stupidA! pooor Tom the ffat chick deserved it shes ugly to look at her hidig her face :)))

Comment by ich bin nicht ich
2009-04-16 10:23:32

Hahahahhahah At last a funny post. Needed a laugh now! Thanks!

Comment by Link_kElly
2009-07-10 05:03:12

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Comment by Julie
2009-04-16 10:21:15

Tom probably recognized them from stalking him, and that’s why he punched her. Tom did the right thing! And I stand by what I say.

 
Comment by Jade
2009-04-16 10:26:19

I think he didn’t hit her personally only because he’s a lot smarter then that and even though they did that to his car I don’t think he would go that far as to hitting her!!!Do you honestly think Tom would stoop that low people I mean come on really? just a thought I think she did that for attention but that’s just my opinion no offense to anyone else!!!

 
Comment by lizzy
2009-04-16 10:27:37

……..I REALLY DONT KNO WAT TO SAY HERE………BUT…..WHO KNOWS MABIE THIS ISNT TRUE…….IDK

 
Comment by Kiomarys|-
2009-04-16 10:28:03

im gonna wait because what if he didnt really mean to hit her and they changed it all up and said that he punched on purpose!
And i really hope its not true because thats really bad!

 
Comment by astrid
2009-04-16 10:29:16

yup.. i hope they would release a statement very soon. and bill is adorable and delicate ( from vampire freak ) but i think that when provoke he has a tendency too. i think, what happened is that, the girls were really annoying in some way and tom probably is in a bad mood. maybe the girls were like knocking on the window of his car or something. and when tom said no pictures, the girls were upset and i dont know maybe they started acting crazy or something.. but still, i really want to hear the side of tom.. lets just hope this is not true. have a good night/ day everyone. :)

 
Comment by Syd Luvs Bill
2009-04-16 10:31:14

OK OK look we need to hear toms side to the story because i don’t think he would a such thing this might not even be true like she could be lieing about this whole thing so lets just see…

 
Comment by Chris
2009-04-16 10:33:56

I support TOMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM

Those girls are JUST STUPID T___T

Comment by alissa
2009-04-16 12:10:03

your a fucking ratard. plain and simple.

Comment by ich bin nicht ich
2009-04-16 13:09:08

My God alissa. Can’t you chill?

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Comment by laiila
2009-04-16 13:31:56

alissa u have ur opinion as we all do so just cheer up !

 
Comment by alissa
2009-04-16 17:30:05

Fuck you If I wanna write something on someones comment, I can!! Unless I say something on your comment Don’t say shit!!!!!!!

 
 
 
 
Comment by Ella.
2009-04-16 10:39:04

No, I don’t think this is true. Tom wouldn’t have hit her. All though if he did, I actually understand him and that he gets pissed off. But if he did, I actually understand him.

 
Comment by Mia
2009-04-16 10:40:42

We haven’t heard both sides of this yet so I can’t say how I feel.

BUT DID ANYONE ELSE IMMEDIATELY ASSUME IT WAS THE SAME ONES HE REFUSED TO GIVE AND AUTOGRAPH TO AND THEY STARTED ARGUING WITH HIM BEFORE??

That was the first thing that came into my mind.

It could be Tom is in the wrong and really hit the girl - for which there is ZERO excuse and I will immediately never listen to them again if that’s the case.

BUT
Listening to these stories of late - IT SOUNDS LIKE THERE IS A SELECT GROUP OF FEMALES BENT ON BRINGING HIM TO ANGER!!!!!

Like they are doing EVERYTHING they can to get him really angry and to defend himself (?) so they can then sue him.

Wonder if the girls were really fans or haters!!!!!!

Comment by Anna
2009-04-16 11:24:09

yeah i agree with you, it seems like there lately has
been girls bent on making Tom look bad or do
something stupid so that they can cause a scandal and
get attention.

like at a concert of theirs i went to some girl came out
of their hotel claiming that Tom spit on her when she knocked on
his hotel room door which we all knew was a lie because security wouldnt let anyone on the floor the guys were staying on.
so maybe these girls are just pissed that they cant seem to get a chance with tom or maybe they want attention from the band, which is dumb on their part considering i doubt the guys are going to be very happy with them.

Comment by kassey
2009-04-16 11:30:11

I with you on this. Tom may or may not have done this but even if he did he was definitely provocted.

And this definitely sounds like the same girls verbally attacking his family and friends and himself lately

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Comment by Em*
2009-04-16 10:42:00

oh come on guys, It’s tom! Tom isn’t violent and if he was he probably didn’t mean to be. For all I know she could have set this whole thing up.

 
Comment by Paula
2009-04-16 10:45:07

I hope it’s not true…

But if he did that, I’ll still like him as a musician, but not as a person.

But I dunno… I can’t judge, I’m not God.

<>

 
Comment by Rebekkah
2009-04-16 10:48:04

woah, I dont know what to think! Rumor or not, this WILL clear its self up. if its a rumor he will deny it. If its not he will come up and say something about it.

 
Comment by Helen
2009-04-16 10:57:11

some of u guys r bein stupid, i meen u all r like a guy should never hit a girl, tht is true, but smashing a secret on the window of his new car would piss anyone off
but also ppl wouldnt b freakin out if tom was a girl and the girl was a dude, ppl would b like ya tht guy totally deserved it
so dont have a double standered, wait for his side of the story, if there even is a side for him to explain, cuz we still dont even know if it was him!

 
Comment by zebbie483
2009-04-16 10:57:18

i am totaly on toms side coz tbh i would have done the same thing, the only differnce is that if i (a totaly random person that no one knows) hit someone no one will care it happents all the time and the only reason ppl r making such a big deal is coz tom is very well known. and just coz he is famouse dosnt meen the he cant have emotions and limits to when he has had enough of stupid girls Harassing him.

 
Comment by Caraaa
2009-04-16 10:57:41

Why I just don’t belive this? naah, I just don’t know.. Well I’ll wait to get more information

 
Comment by Kippel
2009-04-16 11:00:17

Sounds like the accusation is true and Tom hit the girl. It came from a police report and she does have a swollen face.

He will go to court but can claim he was used a provocation defense.
Excert of the law (U.S.)
“In any civil action for damages inflicted by an assault, the defendant (Tom) may plead as a defense to the claim for punitive damages, any matter of provocation that preceded the assault or battery, if the provocation prompted the assault or battery and was of a nature to cause a person of ordinary prudence and judgment to take the action taken by the defendant.”

In other words he would have to convince the court he was provocted to violence.
Oddly - that sound Video of Tom being harrassed by an arguing fan who you can tell TOO close - would be a perfect exhibit for his defence.

Problem is that many courts are divided as to wether a provocation defense is justification or and excuse.

Most victims ask for payment - and that sadly is why some people spend their lives provocting celebrities. They do it for money. Although we don’t know what these girls motives were yet.

Celebrity example:
Gene Hackman

Comment by ich bin nicht ich
2009-04-16 13:12:23

But the story is only from the girls site.
Tom might not even have been there! We do not know that! The police report came from the girl. And we have to wait for mor infoes.
Maybe none of it is true. And if it was true…why are the girls hiding like criminals?

Comment by Nancy
2009-04-16 14:28:23

The story was on the news!!!!

But true - the girls could have made up the whole thing.

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Comment by lizzy
2009-04-16 14:32:44

EXACTICALLY….THESE GIRLS R HIDING SOMETHING…….I KNO IT………….

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Comment by cass
2009-04-16 11:04:36

he shouldn’t of did that. her either.

 
Comment by Anonymous
2009-04-16 11:06:02

Wow - first Bill turns into a woman. Now Tom has snapped. Tom has seemed miserable and grumpy lately and I’m sure some stalkers brought it on.

But safe to say they lost their fans with this one.

Hit a girl and I don’t care how talented you are - I won’t support you.

 
Comment by Anna
2009-04-16 11:18:16

the girl probably just wants attention.
for all we know she hit herself in the face or got one of her
friends to do it.
i dont think tom is dumb enough to hit a fan,
especially before they are supposed to come out with a new album.
shes probably some pissed off fan who didnt get an autograph or something and wants to get back at him.

Comment by lizzy
2009-04-16 11:23:21

yeah……its like these stupid fangirls are doing this for the attention……….or mabie shes not a fan and wants 2 get the guy in trouble for no reason watsoever

Comment by ich bin nicht ich
2009-04-16 11:40:14

Lizzy: You have a point there :-)

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Comment by lizzy
2009-04-16 11:58:20

i kno….i mean……i bet there are alot of anti-fans out there who want to ruin these guys reputation………….

 
Comment by Vampire Freak
2009-04-16 13:22:32

I agree lizzy. We don’t have to believe this untill we got sure it’s not a stupid rumor or story made by whoever made it.

 
Comment by lizzy
2009-04-16 13:42:02

EXACTICALLY……..tho right now im worried about wats going 2 happen to the band because of this…..

 
 
 
Comment by Nan
2009-04-16 11:32:29

So funny you said that, because I want to hear all sides before passing judgement, that was the first thing that came into my mind as well.

Tom has had fans harrassing him a lot and this story just reeks of girls making stuff up to get attention.

 
 
Comment by Anonymous
2009-04-16 11:20:20

Most fans who follow someone around aren’t stalkers.
Stalkers are people who cause fear.

***************But seeing that these are french chicks again, I wonder if they are the same ones who have been following, harrassing, swearing at him and his family for the past year.************

Becaue if that is the case he was the victim as well.

He should have called the police instead of what he did, but lets face it, when a regular person calls the police they get help for being harrassed. When it’s a celebrity - no one believes they can be upset or afraid by a fan. They figure they deserve it.

Comment by ich bin nicht ich
2009-04-16 13:14:16

That is true. They are not allowed to be humans. They should only stay indoors writing music and not have a life or friends!

 
 
Comment by Chelle
2009-04-16 11:26:47

I certainly hope this did not happen, but in the heat of the moment you can loose it…not that that is an excuse. I’m sure it will all become more clear as we know more details. I just hope the pressure (they are still pretty young) isn’t becoming too much for the whole band and they loose everything they worked so hard to achieve. They are on the “cusp” of international greatness!

 
Comment by kassey
2009-04-16 11:27:22

Were there witnesses?

 
Comment by Bruna
2009-04-16 11:30:47

oo baby.
He can punch me in the face any time he wants.

lol.

the fan probably wasent all that polite…she makes it seems like she was all nice and asking him for a picture, but she was probably attacking him..lol..

Rumor or not he’s still hot.

Comment by ich bin nicht ich
2009-04-16 11:38:49

Someone actually likes to get hit! So get the lack and leather on and smapnk ahead honey :-)
What you do in your bedroom is noons business but yours. And maybe Tom, Bill, Georg or Gustav likes it too… Maybe they all dresses up in leather thong on the tour buss spanking eatchother. LMAO!
Oh, no pictures in my head….. Oh, whatta hell, I can live with them :-D

Comment by lizzy
2009-04-16 11:46:16

lol thats the funniest thing i have read all day……ooooooooooo i like the pictures in my head….kinda sexy lol XD

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Comment by ich bin nicht ich
2009-04-16 11:48:24

hahahah Oh,. I would love to be a fly on that buss wall….

 
Comment by lizzy
2009-04-16 11:52:55

yeah…..me 2 lol

 
 
Comment by MzKaulitz
2009-04-16 15:22:29

You’re no better than my friend over here. You guys are some masochistic freaks! Count me in. ^_~ As much as I hate to admit it, that is a pretty nice image you put in my head.

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Comment by Tracey
2009-04-16 11:36:10

Problem is

if you or I were harrasse and verbally attacked like this, we could call the police and have the girls arrested for harassment an verbal abuse (If they are the same french chicks then they probably were swearing as well)

But if Tom called the police - they would get upset at him and say celebrities are suppose to put up with this.

He shouldn’t let them provoke him and they may have done it for money. But who could he call for help!?

Comment by ich bin nicht ich
2009-04-16 13:15:27

Ecxactely! Ghost Busters?

 
 
Comment by Kiki
2009-04-16 11:40:31

The defense could simply get all the phone records of him and family and friends being harrassed. The recording of him being harrassed,etc etc. and see if they all came from these 4 girls.

If so then they have been provoking him for some time. He shouldn’t have hit her - IF HE DID, but no one believes famous people when they get upset about fans bugging them to the point of fear. So many people say famous people should just deal with it.

 
Comment by Loni
2009-04-16 11:42:42

They are so good to their fans, why can’t people leave them alone when they are home.

And to take a picture of him in his car? What if his family or friends were behind him and didn’t want their picture taken.

Gaurenteed the were harrassing him, but did he react excessively or not?
Could he not drive away because they were near the wheels?
Have to wait to hear what he says I guess.

 
Comment by Melanie
2009-04-16 11:46:04

The girles are crazy

 
Comment by Grace
2009-04-16 11:54:53

Don’t know if the girls made this up or not (I mean wouldn’t there be witnesses?) but I am praying my heart out for a happy resolution to all this.

This is probably the end of the band that prided themselves on fans and we real fans know that the girls who harassed him are crazy, and Tokio Hotel love their fans. But he hit a girl and let his anger take over.

I pray this resolves in a way that is happy for him and his family and if the girls did anything wrong they are found out for it.
doubt the band will exist anymore though.

Comment by lizzy
2009-04-16 13:12:40

….WHAT R U TALKING ABOUT…..WHAT DO U MEAN BY THEY MIGHT NOT EXIST ANYMORE

 
Comment by Vampire Freak
2009-04-16 13:25:34

:S !!!!!!!

 
Comment by laiila
2009-04-16 13:37:48

whaaat???

 
Comment by MzKaulitz
2009-04-16 15:31:49

What are you talking about? Do not say things like that! Aren’t we all being a little melodramatic?

Comment by laiila
2009-04-16 16:08:05

a little??!
i think too much really

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Comment by S H
2009-04-16 11:56:07

The studio hasn’t poured anymoney into promoting the new CD yet, so they may cancel their contract over this.

 
Comment by alice
2009-04-16 12:01:17

Wow, the discussion here is getting pretty heated.

First of all, I have to say that I don’t believe it is right for a man to hit a woman, star or not.
Fact- we don’t know what really happened. So I’m not going to insult the fan or crucify Tom.

It all seems to unclear and full of holes, so until further investigation it taken and more news released we are left with a basic ’she said, he, woops, she said’ case.

Watching this news video I found it strange that only the girls’ side of the story was reported. The man with the black glasses, I suspected he was a witness or an employee of the petrol station (but he wasn’t, he was a journalist). So where are the other witnesses and what does the convenience store clerk have to say?
So Tom supposedly threw his cigarette at the girl–Not very smart, being a petrol station and all. Not to mention–DNA. That is evidence and I hope that bagged that shit (it places him at the scene of the crime). Cameras do the same job, but not all gas stations have cameras. But if that particular store did, it was not reported of a tape being confiscated as evidence.

Comment by ich bin nicht ich
2009-04-16 12:10:13

They don’t all have cameras in Germany? They do here I guess. As so many fills up and just leaves without paying. And I thought the man with glasses was a a vitness too. This most have been seen on a really small tv station. I haven’t seen any about this on RTL or Viva tonight. And I have searches all news in Norway and Sweden as well and….NOTHING

So… hopefully this was not even true!
Anyway we will have to wait and hear Toms site of the story as well…

 
Comment by Rach
2009-04-16 12:12:23

Intellegent post. :) I agree. We have no choice but to wait and see what happens- but I really hope this is a rumor!

A punch in the face isn’t a HUGE deal physically… let’s be realistic, even if Tom did hit the girl, she most likely exaggerated the pain. What concerns me is the impetus behind the action. What kind of self-justified freak would hit a woman? Maybe fame has gone to his head.

Again, no one knows anything for sure yet.

 
Comment by Anonymous
2009-04-16 12:16:22

So that was a journalist - not a witness?
Interesting.

Maybe because I want to defend Tom but I’m starting to think there is a group of tokio hotel haters pretending to be fans and trying to provoke him.
He can be found innocent if there was reasonable cause to provoke him to hit someone. Not saying its a good excuse.

Wonder if Tom threatened to call the police on the girls and that is why they called the police first!

Comment by ich bin nicht ich
2009-04-16 13:25:40

I do beleive for this girls the pain wasn’t so much on the eye thing as the fact that Tom didn’t want to be their friend.
He most be allowed to fill up his tank without been attacked by “fans”.
A normal person would just walk away if she was rejected and not beating up a bloody car!
I don’t think fame has gotten to Toms head really, but I think that all the stalkers has gotten on his nerves.
Afther all thise boys are known to be living their lives behind high fenses. All becouse of stalkers.

And yeah, maybe he did threathen them with the police…

But in the end all this is just speculations.Lets all wait and see if the Hunk talks soon….

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Comment by Lena
2009-04-16 12:11:14

ahahahaha what u guys are saying is kinda funny and silly … im picturing “THe Mean Girls” right now …. like hahaha some say she pushed her infront of the bus… others say she was hit… LOLOl … ahaha srry random but sooo true … u guys seriously calm….

only TOm gets this shit i swear … wait if it is true hell be all over the media … but if its not then he prolly still will be all over the media… LOL … bunch of stars have gotten mad at the stalkers and have put violence into it … they still have load of fans. and no one talks bout it.. i believe it was idk who but i think johnny Depp … idk or Tom Cruise idk maybe both but it resulted into violence guess what no one talks bout it now… (Im not saying its right thing … but really its nothing proven yet)

another thing … how does she no what “Tom kaulitz from tokio Hotel” looks like ? lately he has changed … and i bet he was all undercover at the gas station… my solution 1.) she had followed him thats how she recognized 2.) it wasnt him … :)

Comment by ich bin nicht ich
2009-04-16 13:28:32

That is true. Lately Tom hasn’t even showen his dreads. So she most have followed him somehow….

There is absolutely something that is NOT right in this story! So I am so looking forward to Toms site of it all.

I hope he’s ok!

Comment by laiila
2009-04-16 13:40:13

oh yes right nd they said she is fan of them nd it was near their house !!
am sure there is misunderstood

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Comment by MzKaulitz
2009-04-16 13:41:38

Ha ha, I love that movie. Lena, seriously, thank you. Somehow, you managed to get me laughing through all this. And you have a good point, she would have to be on his trail for some time to know what he looked like enough to identify him. I’m hoping it’s all just a mistake, and my Tom is innocent.

Comment by Lena
2009-04-16 14:12:42

lol MEan girls … LOLOL … yeah im sure she had more info bout TOm that night than she should have… i mean these are all rumors soo far … i DOnt really take any of this seriously … ahaha can’t wait for bills reactions :D

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Comment by alice
2009-04-16 12:19:38

I don’t want to seem like I am defending an alleged woman-hitter (not a beater w/ just one blow), but I can’t see Tom doing this.
Tom getting out of his car (safe haven) to hit a girl who put the cigarette he threw at her, out on his car, is not a good reason. Precious car or not it is an object. So I find it funny that some fans are like “No, not his car, not his baby”–WTF?!

I was going to saying something about there not being a reason for a man to hit a woman, but there is one—SELF DEFENSE.
It may seem unreasonable and unlikey to you but it is one skinny, but fit man against four crazy fans who have overstepped the boundaries. Tokio hotel fans are different and vary in their fandom, but there are some crazy fans out there who are downright scary.
I happened to being watching the ‘Tokio Hotel: Caught on Camera’ last Monday b/c my cousin came down for spring break and I was trying to convert her. But remember that see where the fan mananged to get on stage, skip everyong and go straight to Tom. So to the comment by RACH, FEAR is another thing to drive someone to hit back. I was surprised to see Tom telling Georg that he was scared (his heart was racing). Which reminds me of the girl from Spain or Portugal who grabbed Tom at a signing and kissed his cheek. Scary.

Comment by Rach
2009-04-16 13:21:50

you’re making excuses when none of us even know what happened.

 
Comment by ich bin nicht ich
2009-04-16 13:30:23

That is true. He was really scared.

I am waiting for Tom’s comment…

 
 
Comment by Mia
2009-04-16 12:20:47

They admitted banging on his window and not taking no for an answer.

!!!!!!!!So I’d bet money Tom first threatened legal action against them and they made this false accusation out of fear of being arrested.

 
Comment by thea
2009-04-16 12:29:14

I really do not think this is true. i mean they only got vidos with Tom with the others and if its true, i agree with all those who said he should have not hit the girl in her face, but i saw a video i think alot of you have seen of Tom outside their studio, he was driving his car really slowly and he was going all around it like it was his baby or something. So if these girls hit his car and switched the cigarette on the window it was not very smart. I would have just ignored them and drove away, i think.
Anyway all of you who say you won t be fans anymore i m not judging but i personally think you re not real fans because Tom has said a million times he hates it when people follow him around while their not on tour, let alone hitting his NEW car. this girl just brought it upon herself. And don t ask me what i would say or do if it had happened to me cause i would never hit on any car which is not mine not even on my fathers car cause he would kill me let alone on Tom Kaulitz s car.
this is my opinion

Comment by Rach
2009-04-16 12:46:15

What’s this stupid shit about “real” fans or not real fans? You ARE judging.

Comment by thea
2009-04-16 12:51:35

i don t want to fight with you or anything, for god s sake i don t even know you. i understand what you say but i just told you my opinion nothing else.

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Comment by ich bin nicht ich
2009-04-16 13:33:07

I so understand what you mean Thea!

 
 
 
 
Comment by kalieee
2009-04-16 12:29:14

uhmm can i just say to all fans…we think we know tokio hotel..but we know what they choose to show us..oki so we dont know if its tru or not especially if we never even heard tom’s side of the story…we’ll have to wait n see if he’s gonna come out and say something…all i have to say is that if this is true tom im very ashamed…but lets cross our fingers and hope its not eh

Comment by ich bin nicht ich
2009-04-16 13:33:57

:-D
Yeah. we all have to wait and see

 
 
Comment by Lena
2009-04-16 12:33:29

i just read ten diff versions of the same story … but apparently most say the girls were the ones who were taking vids in front of their studio … also another thing … this happened wednesday late … how weird is it that tom and these girls were at the same gas station … at the same time … no one else was there… hmmmmmmm… lol im just telling u some of the things i read… i dont believe anything till its confermed …

Comment by ich bin nicht ich
2009-04-16 13:36:17

RIGHT! And as Tom is wearing hats and stuff they most have know he was there to recognice him. And you know what… he has eyes, he sees the stalkers too, and he too will know them when he sees them.
And now they are heartbroken and wants to hurt him.

I hope :-) Let’s wait for Toms story